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RatCreature ([personal profile] ratcreature) wrote in [community profile] fanart_recs2010-10-06 11:26 pm
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Questions & Answers

A few people have asked further questions in the sign-up post's comments, and I thought it might be a good idea to have a post collecting these for reference without making the basic intro & rules post overly long and detailed.

1. Can I sign up for a rec theme/topic that is not a fandom?

No. The sign-up for reccing and the categorization of the recs is organized by fandom, with each reccer being in charge of the recs for the fandom they picked during the month they signed up for, and that simple model wouldn't really work anymore if a single reccer wanted some other criterion to pick their recs, and recced say AU art or a mix of Big Bang art or some other topic across fandoms. So you have to pick a fandom for a month.

However unlike Crack Van for example, this rec community is not explicitly dedicated to introduce people to new fandoms, so the fanart you rec doesn't necessarily have to be a balanced/representative selection of art across your fandom. So if a genre or style is a particular favorite of yours, you could just rec that kind of fanart in your single-fandom recs.

2. Can I rec crossover art?

Yes, as long as one of the fandoms is the one you signed up for, you can rec crossover fanart like any other genre. In this particular case the rec should be tagged with both (or all) fandoms though, not just the one you are reccing.

3. What exactly counts as a single "fandom" to sign up for?

Fandoms are not pre-defined for sign-up in this comm. In the case of more complicated canon sources you can sign up for wider or narrower sections of your fandom, though later tagging of the recs may be adjusted if future reccers get more specific or more general. For example somebody could sign up for DC Comics in general, and rec across all comic title families, and later another reccer might sign up just for Batverse recs, then some of the earlier DC Comics recs may get an additional Batverse tag later on if the more specific tag applies.

However as a rule of thumb [community profile] fanart_recs follows conventions within the fandoms, on whether they consider themselves a separate fandom. For example Stargate SG-1 and Stargate Atlantis are widely considered two fandoms among their fans, even though both belong to the Stargate franchise. Fandom distinctions as made in popular archives such as fanfiction.net or AO3 can be a good indicator of these conventions when trying to decide under which fandom label to sign up for recs.

4. How exactly do you draw the lines for what counts as "fanart" for this comm?

I tried to cover this in the "What can I rec?" question of the rules, but as always there are tricky grey areas, and standards between fandoms of what is considered as "fanart" might vary as well. So if in doubt you can assume that this comm does not intend to be overly dogmatic about what constitutes "fanart".

First, what you cannot rec is fanfic, fanpoetry, vids, fanfilms, icons, picture macros, costume designs, or fannish music/audio productions (filks, fan mixes, podfic, or audiofic sound collages).

You can rec drawn and painted fanart (whether traditional or digital media), and photomanips, as well three dimensional art such as sculptures, fannish dioramas, and objects like customized action figures (if the customization is a significant change), and fiber art provided that is not costuming (see above) but fiber projects like for example knitted character dolls.

Multimedia works that have a fanart component that would fall under one of the things listed above are also okay to rec, e.g. story illustrations or fancomics with a significant fanart component. So fancomics are okay to rec if they have drawn or manipped art (i.e. if you could rec the art here without the narrative part), but not if a fan arranged screencaps with funny dialog without making the screencaps into digital art.

4.1 And what about photo fancomics?

Fancomics created by creatively posing toys and taking photos are okay to rec in principle too. Though the a rec should not be mostly for the narrative they tell only incidentally in photos, but because they are visually appealing, i.e. the rec should be for the visual art part if it is photo art.

4.2 What about animated fanart?

The "no vids" rule is meant for vids made by cutting the source material to music, not for fanart slideshows or fanart animation. Similarly to how fancomics are not allowed when they are a narrative told with rearranged screencaps but are allowed if they are drawn or manipped.

4.3 What about art created by professionals? Are there any pro vs amateur rules?

The art recced here should not be officially affiliated with the source. So web posted pro art that is done as part of the artist's job rather than as hobby shouldn't be recced. And in general I'd also count it as "work" if it is a paid commission that shows characters they work on officially, even if it isn't official art (such as a comic page). However if someone is a professional artist as their job, but also draws fanart for things they are not associated with as hobby in their free time that would be okay to rec, so there is no strict "amateurs only" rule.

Especially with comics there are plenty of grey areas, and of course people could do official work just briefly then draw the same characters for fun at some later or earlier point in time because they are fans, or other configurations, and there aren't going to be any background checks on the work history of linked artists or the nature of the linked art. Basically if what you rec is what you think of as "fanart" it's fine.

5. Are there any special requirements for the content of my recs? Do I need to talk about technical aspects of the art?

No. You don't need to be technical at all. And the rec doesn't need to be a long indepth review. The "Why this piece is awesome" field in the template is just so you can say why you like that piece of fanart, and why others ought to click and look at it. Whether because it is pretty, or evoked some emotion, or suggested a story or narrative you could glimpse, or because it was funny etc. When people rec fanfic they usually don't talk about technical writing detail either. This is the same principle.

The "medium" field in the template is not intended to be very technical either, but it is mostly because for example some people dislike photomanips or are squicked by them in live action fandoms when they are explicit, so they only want to look at NC-17 art if its drawn, whereas other people don't care for drawn art because they prefer graphics etc. If the artist doesn't say what the medium was and you can't tell (e.g. it's some mix of photomanip and other digital techniques and you don't know what to call it, or you can't tell whether it is digital painting or scanned traditional art or something) you could just skip it or go with a more general term (e.g. "digital art" in the first case, "painting" in the second).
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[personal profile] alias_sqbr 2010-10-24 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
Wasn't sure where further questions/suggestions would be most appropriate, I hope this is it.

Anyway: when you were taking signups before I did wonder at you putting everyone in November without pushing anyone forward into December. Maybe you need to make the max number of reccers per month a bit lower? After the initial surge you're probably not going to get lots of new people every month, and not everyone will have lots of different fandoms to rec for. I'd be happy to shift mine forward into December if that's helpful.
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[personal profile] sqbr 2010-10-26 05:40 am (UTC)(link)
Sorry I took a while to reply, dw wasn't loading for some reason...

Fair enough. I'm sure you have more experience with this sort of thing than me.

I better go finish writing my recs then :D
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[personal profile] snowynight 2010-10-31 04:41 am (UTC)(link)
Is it allowed to post a rec of fanart from non-English source? If so, does the name of the artist and title, etc need to be translated ( or romantized) or posted as it is?
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[personal profile] snowynight 2010-10-31 02:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for you reply.
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[personal profile] thady 2010-10-31 08:57 pm (UTC)(link)
How many recs can be posted (per month)?
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[personal profile] woldy 2011-01-23 01:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not trying to be difficult, but I'm afraid I have two questions.

First, would it be okay to rec a vid where all the images are fanart? I'm thinking of this http://hdworldcup.marteler-le-ciel.com/2009EWE/accidentswillhappen.html and another similar vid, both of which are among my favourite pieces of fanart ever, but I wasn't sure if they fell foul of your no vids rule.

Second, would it be okay to rec a fanart/fic collaboration? Here I have in mind this piece http://camelot-fleet.dreamwidth.org/49482.html#cutid1 .
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[personal profile] stultiloquentia 2011-04-02 04:45 pm (UTC)(link)
What are your thoughts on reccing pieces without the creator's name attached? I've found some brilliant stuff on tumblr, but, as you probably know, tumblr has a culture of pilfering stuff (often from Japanese sites -- hence, perceived communication barrier) and reposting without linking or crediting the artist. It drives me batshit. I'm deeply ambivalent about linking to the tumblr posts, which feels like according undeserved credit/hitcounts/status to the reblogger ... but I still want to share the art. And there's a slim chance someone here will recognize an artist and be able to provide a proper link. Grr, quandary.
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[personal profile] stultiloquentia 2011-04-02 05:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Another reason to hate tumblr: it renames images to things like tumblr_lexh7v5F2P1qakaz2o1_500.jpg, so so much for googling.

Tell you what: I'll include a few of these next time I sign up as a reccer (assuming I really utterly fail to find the artists), but with a big, bolded note attached saying, "Tumblr sucks. Please help me credit this."
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[personal profile] softestbullet 2011-07-25 08:26 pm (UTC)(link)
What are your thoughts on thumbnails/cropped preview images? Can reccers include them if they want?
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[personal profile] turlough 2012-08-03 10:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I just made a rec for Bandom but it's also a crossover with Comics RPS which doesn't have a tag. I don't know if it's going to happen enough to actually need a tag of its own though.
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[personal profile] turlough 2012-08-04 04:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Someone else who loves tags, yay!
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[personal profile] turlough 2012-08-04 06:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow, that's A LOT of tags. Suddenly my 1815 (for 3014 bookmarks) feels like a very small number :-)
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[personal profile] turlough 2012-08-04 08:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I clearly need to start tagging more ;-) I think I'm still stuck in the Delicious mentality of being afraid to hit the tag limit. I still miss tag bundles but I think he's working on them so hopefully I won't have to miss them for much longer. It's the only thing that Delicious did better than Pinboard.
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[personal profile] turlough 2013-03-21 05:33 pm (UTC)(link)
My latest rec is a Doctor Who/Narnia crossover but there wasn't a Narnia tag. Could we get one?
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[personal profile] turlough 2013-03-21 05:42 pm (UTC)(link)
(I love your icons so much! They're absolutely charming and you seem to have one to fit every occasion.)

I'll try to remember that in the future!
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[personal profile] goss 2017-08-10 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey, I have a suggestion about the Artist field in the posting format.

I noticed that in recent years the majority of new fan-artists are now based on Tumblr rather than LJ/DWs. I just did a quick scroll through the recs page and noticed that in most (if not all) cases, the Artist field ends up just being filled as "N/A".

Maybe the Artist section could be modified to include other social spaces like Tumblr and AO3, since DW [user name] code makes it possible to directly link to these users' profiles.

In the recs post I just made, I put the Artist Tumblr name in that field - hope that's okay...
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Re: Suggestion

[personal profile] goss 2017-08-10 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
The links to the artist field always has also included social sites like dA even if Tumblr isn't mentioned in the template (because it wasn't as dominant in fandom when this comm started)

Ah okay, good to know.

It is a rather sad state of affairs that even though LJ/DW seems to have retained a modest percentage of the fic writing community, the fan-artists have all but vanished. :b